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Kimber
Pro Carry II in 9mm
By Phil White of
Gunner’s Journal
I was at Cott Firearms last week just taking a look
to see what was new and as always checking for any good used gun buys.
Well I didn’t see anything that got my attention but out of curiosity I
took a look at the Kimber Pro Carry II in 9MM. I’ve been reading more
and more about the 1911 platform in 9MM and frankly I was getting pretty
curious about this combination of the best handgun ever made chambered
in this old caliber.
As many of you probably know when Colt designed the
Commander model for the Army for use by the officer corp as well as
those in support positions this is the gun they designed and it was
designed for the 9MM from the start. The Colt Commander is 1/4 inch
longer than the current trend of CCW 1911’s with 4 inch barrels such as
this Kimber Pro Carry II and the Springfield Champion LW and soon
(around April 08) the Rock Island Armory Tactical which Armscor calls a
midsize gun. I’m sure if anybody else comes out with another 4 inch 1911
in 9MM it will be Rock Island Armory. They are a very innovative company
that pays attention to their customers like no other! This is the only 4
inch bull barrel full frame 1911 I know of in 9MM. The Springfield is
available only in 45 with the exception of the smaller 1911 designed
around the 9MM
I know who wants a 1911 in 9MM. Well sir, I do.
After succumbing to this little beauty I’m a convert. It does fill a
useful niche. If you’ve read my blog at all you know I’m a 1911 45 ACP
devotee in the extreme but lets keep an open mind on this one. No, I’m
not getting into the endless 45 ACP vs 9MM debate. I’ll say this–over
the last several years ammo makers have come a very long way in making
the 9MM a much more effective load than it was even ten years ago. I use
the Winchester Ranger “T” series 127 grain +p+ for my Hi Power and now
this Kimber. It feeds very well and the ballistics on this round are
impressive. I trust this load to do the job simple as that.
The
Kimber holds 9 rounds of 9MM in the magazine with one up the pipe.
Weight on this gun with the alloy frame is 28 ounces. So, ten rounds at
your disposal in a lightweight highly concealable 1911. What more could
you ask for in a daily carry gun that will ride with you eight or ten
hours a day. Riding in a Milt Sparks 55BN in winter and a Sparks
“Heritage” IWB in warm weather and you’re set.
These days there is certainly one reason for using
a 9MM that has nothing to do with the caliber debate and that is the
cost of shooting. At MidwayUsa 500 rounds of 45 ACP cost $126 whereas
9MM is $76 for 500 rounds. That is a substantial savings and allows
those of us without unlimited funds to shoot a lot more for the same
money or shoot the same amount for a considerable savings. From what
I’ve been told ammo prices are going up two more times by February next
year. Not good but then there isn’t much we can do about that except
adapt by reloading more.
On to shooting this fine gun. After bringing the
Kimber home and giving it a complete cleaning and lube with Militec I
put it all back together. There is one thing to let you know about when
taking this pistol down for cleaning. The gun comes with a very slim hex
wrench that slips into a hole in the guide rod in order to capture the
compressed spring so you can remove the guide rod and then the barrel.
There is nothing at all hard about it and just adds a small step to
disassembly. Incidentally the Kimber uses a single 22 pound spring which
changes out like any other 1911so you don’t have to fool with buying two
specialized springs. The instructions for taking down the pistol is in
the manual. You really need to read this before attempting to
disassemble the gun for cleaning. I removed the rubber grips which came
with the gun and put on a set of Mil-Tac G10’s with the 1* logo on them.
For those not familiar with this it means One Ass To Risk. This is
something Gary Paul Johnston came up with many years ago as a uniform
patch for the SWAT team he worked with. Mil-Tac is the only company
licensed to use this logo. I also picked up two additional magazines
made by Metalform with a removable base and pre drilled for a slam pad.
These are very good magazines no matter the caliber but I was especially
impressed with the way these were made. Quality throughout at $13 from
Brownell’s if you care to order extra mags for your guns. I was lucky
enough to get my mags right away. Yes, the 9MM mags are less expensive
as well:-)
I
gathered up a few hundred rounds of 9MM in various brands and types of
bullets and headed for the local police range. I used a reduced size
B27R target. All shooting was done from 10 yards and 25 yards. I started
at the 10 yard line as I usually do and tried for the smallest group I
could manage without slow firing. I noticed right away that recoil was
actually pleasant. Just enough to let you know you were shooting a major
caliber. Getting back on target was very fast with this gun in no small
measure to the excellent sights that Kimber uses as well as the reduced
amount of recoil compared to the larger calibers. This is the first
target after 50 rounds at ten yards. Firing and reloading stopping only
to reload the mags.
I don’t shoot slow at all from ten yards. I
practice like I would if engaging a real target. As you can see this
little gun is an excellent natural pointer as most 19111’s are. These
first 50 rounds were all ball ammo from Winchester in the white box
Wal-Mart variety. Next I loaded up the mags mixing Federal 9BP’s with
Cor-Bon 125 Grain +P’s, Speer Gold Dots and some older plain
hollowpoints. Everything feed to perfection with all mags no matter how
I mixed up the ammo. I fired a total of 200 rounds with no malfunctions.
Next I backed up to 25 yards and did some slow fire. I fired 20 rounds
from this distance at the head. All rounds were fired standing without a
rest. This is
the
target.
Practically speaking you wouldn’t be making head
shots at 25 yards but for the sake of testing accuracy it works. I was
really impressed with the results. I had two flyers with one a little
high and the other a little low left as you can see from the picture.
Eleven rounds of the twenty went into the center hole. This is a better
result than normal for most 1911’s I shoot at that range regardless of
caliber. It just proves if you do your job this little gun will shoot up
to a high standard. It is fitted with a match barrel and trigger. I
loaned out my trigger pull gauge so I can’t tell you the exact trigger
pull but it is crisp with little take-up. Since the first time through
with the excellent results at the ten yard line I loaded up one mag to
capacity and moved back to the ten yard line intending to fire the
entire mag as fast as possible. All ten rounds went into the same large
hole from the first time through. This really got my attention. To say I
was surprised would be an understatement!
I’ve shot my Springfield Champion a lot but I have
never equaled this accuracy at 25 yards with it. Whether it’s the
quality construction of the gun or the 9MM round from a 1911 platform is
something to be answered by additional evaluation. One thing I’m sure of
is this is a very good carry combination that deserves your
consideration.
Update: 11/03/07
I’m up to 550 rounds on the Kimber this week with only one problem which
has nothing to do with the gun. I felt like I should pass this along so
you won’t have the same problem. I was cleaning the Pro Carry and ran
out of Wilson gun grease. I made a Wal-Mart run and picked up some
“Shooters Choice” all weather high tech gun grease and applied it like I
would the Wilson grease. When I went to the range I immediately had
malfunction after malfunction of every type you can imagine. I was using
the same ammo as before and the same mags. Nothing had changed except I
used that shooters choice grease.
I tore the gun down and wiped it down removing the
grease. I got it pretty dry then just lubed the gun as usual with
Militec only. After that there were no more problems of any kind. The
problem was obviously the grease. The question now is why? There are two
reasons I can think of. The recoil impulse for a 9mm in this gun is not
sufficient to overcome the extra drag from the grease. The second would
be the grease formulation is just too thick to work well with any gun.
No matter—I would stay away from this brand of gun grease period!
UPDATE 11/17/07
At somewhere just over 550 rounds the gun started failing to eject
empties. The empty brass would stay in the barrel as well as jamming of
various types. I was not a happy camper! I realize this can happen to
the best of guns but it is very aggravating especially when you buy a
gun that’s pretty expensive. I knew it was not a magazine issue since
the Kimber mags and the Metalform mags are some of the best mags
available and showed no signs of defects. I contacted Kimber and got an
employee who was less than helpful. It’s probably the same person I have
heard of on the forums as being a real—well you fill in the blanks:-)
After a day or two I called back and talked with another person who was
very helpful and an all around nice guy. I asked for a new extractor
since I had determined that was the problem. I explained the extractor
hook appeared to be partially broken off. They didn’t have any
extractors in stock but he offered to pull one from the assembly area
after I explained this was my carry gun. This is exactly what he did and
I received the new extractor in four days which I thought was very good.
The service from this employee was excellent. All he asked was that I
send the old extractor back so they could examine it.
When I received the new extractor I got right to
work and replaced it. It did need some minor tuning but very very
little. I hand cycled the gun until it was tossing out every round. This
is only an indicator so you have to go to the range and fire a 100
rounds or so to make sure you have it right. I did take the Kimber to
the range this morning and fired 100 rounds and the gun functioned
flawlessly. The
rounds
ejected better than when it was new and put the empties directly to my
right about 5 feet in a circle about 4 feet around. I also tried several
other brands of ammo other than ball ammo. I used some Cor-Bon as well
as Remington and Federal JHP’s. They all functioned without any problem.
Problem solved! I really love this gun for several reasons I’ve
mentioned before. The more I shoot it the more I enjoy it. The cost of
9MM is almost half that of 45acp and as I’ve said with Winchester Ranger
“T” 127 grn +P+ it’s very effective. Of course Speer Gold Dots are also
fine rounds to use. To sum things up it was an unexpected malfunction
but it happens and was taken care of in a timely manner by Kimber and
I’m happy with this gun!
One other item you might be interested in is the
Tactical Pro. This is the same gun as the Pro Carry II but has extra
features. Most apparent is the gray frame. It also has an ambidextrous
safety, night sights, 30 LPI checkering on the front strap, a magwell
and a different trigger. The increase in cost is on average $250 more
than the Pro Carry II.
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